[Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes

Wed Sep 5 12:35:28 EDT 2007

Or you could just let people freeform type the names of wards they have been in, with help from an ajax autocomplete dropdown. Users will enter all the data you need, wiki style. An official list might not be good enough anyway, because wards split and join, change names, etc.

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From: "Jesse Stay" <jesse at thestays.org>

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:51:12 
To:"LDS Open Source Software" <ldsoss at lists.ldsoss.org>
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes

So what about just Ward and Stake Names (and countries)?  I'd like to scrape the Ward, Stake, and Country data from http://www.mormon.org/worshipwithus <http://www.mormon.org/worshipwithus>  (unit names only from that url, no membership or other data at all) and store the Wards, Stakes, and Countries in some sort of parseable data file for others to use.  My desire is to have users of the LDS Facebook App to be able to choose previous Wards and Stakes that they have been in, and find old friends that are also on Facebook that have also been in those Wards and Stakes at the same time.  Would the Church be ok with this?  Do I need to get written approval to do this - it seems your EULA doesn't want this to happen since I would be gathering data from the site. 

The Church should really look into writing a few Facebook apps of their own.  There are some excellent missionary opportunities there with an entire access to an API of linked friends.  It's the ultimate member missionary opportunity!  Of course, my LDS App will also do the same thing. :-) 

Jesse

On 9/5/07, Tom Welch <welchtc at ldschurch.org <mailto:welchtc at ldschurch.org> > wrote: 
 LUWS is the Local Unit Web Sites or the ward web sites that hang off of lds.org <http://lds.org> .

 Tom

 Jesse Stay wrote: 
What is LUWS Data?

 Jesse

On 9/5/07, Tom Welch <welchtc at ldschurch.org <mailto:welchtc at ldschurch.org> > wrote: 

 I'm not sure what the "Facebook LDS App" is but you must be careful not to take LUWS data and post on 3rd party web sites.  This data is for your personal consumption only.    

 Tom

 >>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at  7:14 AM, in message <
48205a740709050614k7426307dlec66fbac18ef9260 at mail.gmail.com <mailto:48205a740709050614k7426307dlec66fbac18ef9260 at mail.gmail.com> >, "Jesse Stay" <jesse at thestays.org
     <mailto:jesse at thestays.org> > wrote:

 Thanks Steve.  For the moment, it's for non-commercial use so if I read that right it should be okay.  I might want to approach it differently though, in case any of it does become commercial.  It would be really cool if the church could just provide the ward and stake unit data (not member data - only the names of wards and stakes) for free use - there can be a lot of good, wholesome applications built around that data, commercial or not. 

 Jesse

 On 9/5/07, Steven H. McCown <
steven.mccown at gmail.com <mailto:steven.mccown at gmail.com> > wrote: 

 You may want to read this first (

http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD&amp;locale=0 <http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.702d7c3d14dbbb5538da4135f1e543a0/?vgnextoid=897f8a4948743010VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD&amp;locale=0> ). 

 The URL's kind of long, but it is the church's "Rights and Use Information" statement. 

 Here is the privacy information statement (http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html
       <http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,5167-1-2681-1,00.html> ?) 

 Steve 

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 [Ldsoss] Wards and Stakes 

 I was just curious if anyone has scraped the Wards and Stakes off of LDS.org already that might be willing to share it with me?  I'm looking to use this data on the Facebook LDS App, and figured before writing the scraper myself I'd see if it has been done before. 

 Jesse

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