[Ldsoss] Scout Tracking

[Kevin Wise]

Personally, I would be fine with my finances on the web as well.  I do 
all my banking online, so why not tithing?  That said, I understand your 
point, and I agree that legally some opt-in would be needed, but I far 
fewer people care about online privacy than you might think.  I must 
admit I have never understood why I should care what others know about 
me.  I would honestly like to know what motivates you (or people in 
general) to care about keeping your finances or personal information 
secret?  Are you concerned about identity theft?

Kevin

Steven H. McCown wrote:
> Actually, the only parents who are that "out of the loop" are those who
> either choose to be or don't concern themselves enough to ask.  A little
> "how's my son doing?" to the Scoutmaster would give a better picture.  Most
> Scout Masters are excited to talk with parents.  Posting minor children's
> information to the internet and trying to secure it with software that isn't
> secure won't really cure that.  
>
> As for the $40/year and writing a new software package, that's great, I
> support it.  My only complaint is with posting minor children's information
> (as discussed on this list) to the web.  Legally, the church will have to
> provide an opt-out mechanism (in several countries besides the US).  
>
> People keep mentioning parental involvement and parental tracking.  Here's a
> thought, it might be valuable for tithing payers to monitor their charitable
> donations and compare their records to the church's.  If only FIS was online
> accessible (with appropriate security to only monitor ones own donations),
> then we could all go online with a great tool to assist in financial
> planning.  This would ease a busy person's burdens and make it so they never
> had to go ask the ward clerk for a printout.  
>
> Why is that unreasonable (to all but the most devoted techies)?  Because
> it's money.  Whenever money is involved, people get real sensitive.  Why
> don't people share the same concern about children?
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ldsoss-bounces at lists.ldsoss.org
> [mailto:ldsoss-bounces at lists.ldsoss.org] On Behalf Of Stacey
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:39 AM
> To: LDS Open Source Software
> Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Scout Tracking
>
> Steven H. McCown wrote:
>   
>> The key is that if you don't *really* have to be web-accessible, then 
>> don't.
>>
>>     
>
> If it isn't web-accessible then parents continue to be largely "out of 
> the loop" on their son's status in scouts and we continue to spend money 
> out of our YM budgets for TroopMaster licenses. Why would we want to 
> take the time to change to save about $40/yr? However, collectively with 
> all the wards this could add up for the Church as a whole. We don't 
> think collectively at the ward level, however. Therefore, $40/yr for 
> scout tracking software can be easily budgeted for to save a headache.
>
> Each parent could have their own copy of the scout tracking software... 
> Wrong. Installing and supporting an application on every parent's 
> computer is impractical. We would end up fixing parent's operating 
> system issues for the most part. Scout masters want to be scout masters 
> and not software support specialist.
>
> IMHO,
>
> -stacey.
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